Welcome to Time To Talk.  Passing. Fetishisation. Colourism. Mixed race identity. These are the topics I have the pleasure of speaking to my friend Natalie Morris about this week on the show. Her book, Mixed/Other: Explorations of Multiraciality In Modern Britain.  The book comes at an essential time, especially in Black History Month where it can bring up very strong feelings of exclusion for mixed race black people when entering the conversation. Interestingly enough, out in cinemas this week is Passing - the new film written and directed by Rebecca Hall, starring Ruth Negga and Tessa Thompson about African-Americans who had skin color light enough to be perceived as "white" - which is known as ‘Passing’. Gemma spoke to Rebecca Hall – who’s own Grandfather ‘passed’ as white - about the movie which is out in cinemas on October 27th and will be on Netflix on November 10th - and is based on the 1929 novel by Nella Larsen. We do have an in depth conversation about what it means to ‘pass’ especially today in the age of Meghan and Harry; the identities of mixed race people; fetishisation from within and without the Black community, and what books Natalie wants to share with us this week. Natalie and I have worked together as journalists before, and she is deputy lifestyle editor at the Metro covering race, mental health, women in sport and women in the work place. She has a column called Mixed Up on Metro.co.uk. She hails from Manchester, and is doing the work to make the newsroom a much more inclusive place. Find Natalie on Instagram and Twitter I do hope you enjoy the episode. Don’t forget to rate, review and subscribe, and share far and wide. —— Some NEWS.  On International Men’s Day, November 19th join me, and some esteemed guests such as Jonny Benjamin, Simon Thomas, Hope Virgo, Tom Chapman and more, as we partner with Shawmind, Beyond & the lions barber collective for an evening with some of the celebrated authors of Trigger Hub debunking myths around mens mental health. As a guest, in person or online, you will be part of a conversation as we tackle some of the all to common 'man myths' from my book Time To Talk and discuss what it really means to 'be a man' in 2021. Not one to miss. RSVP today at mantalk.live to get your tickets NOW. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices