This week in our first Black History conversation is with a living cricket legend, Michael Holding. Michael Holding is an elder, a wise connection, and leader of our experience as Black people in this country. We talk about his long career in cricket, his experience post-George Floyd and what he remembers about his career. He retired in September 2021. He wrote Why We Kneel, How We Rise - a sober, densely researched account of racial discrimination, partially told through discussions with leading athletes including Usain Bolt, Thierry Henry, Michael Johnson and Naomi Osaka. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices