Ben Owden engages in a profound conversation with Oliver Burkeman, the insightful author of the New York Times bestselling book, Four Thousand Weeks. A book Adam Grant called, the most important time management book of all time. The discussion delves into the societal glorification of busyness, exploring the ironic guilt associated with idleness. Oliver addresses the discomfort of slowing down and the necessity of embracing the poignancy of life's trade-offs. The conversation extends to the joy of missing out (JoMo) and the empowering act of closing doors to focus on what truly matters. Oliver shares wisdom from his book, drawing from diverse perspectives, including Aristotle and modern productivity insights. The episode concludes with reflections on cultivating habits that prioritize intuition over obligation and the enduring value of empathy in navigating the human experience. Oliver's Book - Four Thousand Weeks: https://a.co/d/c87rWyl  Oliver's Email Newsletter Subscription: www.oliverburkeman.com Oliver's Twitter: https://twitter.com/oliverburkeman  Ben Owden's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benowden/  To book Ben to train your teams: [email protected]