In this episode I talk to Chris Owen, a Zen practitioner of over 10 yrs experience. He recalls the time we both went to see the Dalai Lama speak in London as a moment that precipitated a big change in how he related to the troublesome, "hate figures" in his life. These days, Chris jokingly talks about how he can smell a troublesome buddha coming in the distance! He goes on to talk about dealing with troublesome people in a the context of leadership and committee work, and how important it is to have the tools for dealing with difficult people ready in your toolkit. This podcast is sponsored by Zen Minded - An online lifestyle store offering you the very best of Japanese craft, incense & other Zen-inspired home-goods. Check it out at www.zenminded.uk If you liked this podcast, consider:  Sharing it via social media - sharable link to this episode https://www.buzzsprout.com/1902945/9752787Supporting me via PatreonSigning up to my email list