We explore the use of data and evidence in policy making and higher education. We will hear from Doug Elmendorf, dean of the Harvard Kennedy School, about teaching the next generation. How are educators teaching students about the role of data and evidence in discourse and persuasion? We will also dive into policy areas where Doug sees the most room for compromise and progress and hear his takes on policy issues likely to be at the forefront of political debate in this election year. To learn more about Evidence In Action and the Urban Institute please visit Urban.org/evidence-action-podcast.