Episodes
Michael Gungor shares his spiritual story with Nathaniel Schweinberg and me today, as well as discussing the intersection of spirituality and creativity and why it’s important to let go of our spiritual labels. We discuss songs and concepts from his new album “Love Song to Life” coming out 11/11/22. https://linktr.ee/gungormusic --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dtmpod/support
Published 03/30/24
Published 03/30/24
Today I am thrilled that my friend and former guest Makcum Novikov joins me to talk about a word we don’t often hear concerning deconstruction: gentleness. How can we treat ourselves and others gently a we investigate our beliefs and practices? Check out episode 13 in Season 1 on the podcast for another awesome chat with Makcum! Instagram: @makcum.novikov --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dtmpod/support
Published 03/06/24
On today’s bonus episode I chat with Trey Ferguson—a pastor, author, and “theologizer” who writes and speaks publicly about faith and race. He provides such a refreshing view of Christianity, a curious faith, the intersection of technology and religion, and a reframing of what the Good News of Christ might be about after all. Website: https://www.pastortrey05.com Twitter: @PastorTrey05 Instagram: @pastorytrey05 Amazon Link to “Theologizin’ Bigger: Homilies on Living Freely and Loving...
Published 02/29/24
Today’s guest and I chat about her book “Giving Up God,” her journey of deconstructing, and then finding herself on the other side of Christianity as an awe-filled agnostic-atheist who sees life as full of opportunity and wonder now. Connect with Sarah on Instagram at @shayward writes and at her website sarahhennhayward.com Find her book “Giving Up God” at all major online book sales spots! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dtmpod/support
Published 02/06/24
Thanks everyone for being a part of Season 3! In today’s episode I answer listener questions --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dtmpod/support
Published 12/15/23
Today's guest is spiritual director and professor Frank Rogers Jr. who, as a young adult, begin to be deeply tormented by the trauma of suppressed childhood sexual abuse. Wracked by depression, he was on the cliff edge of suicide. From intense despair, he set off on a quest—for answers, for sanity, for a credible God to see him through. We discuss his new book, Cradled in the Arms of Compassion, which details his life story and how he found truly transformational power in the practice of...
Published 12/05/23
Season 1 guest Nathaniel Schweinberg—and host of Purity Cult Pod—returns to discuss sexuality, various relationship models outside of monogamy, and much more that challenge ideas we’ve been taught in purity culture within Evangelical Christianity.   Models of Consent https://www.idcprofessionals.com/blog/defining-consent-from-fries-to-crisp https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/relationships/sexual-consent The Ethical Slut by Janet W....
Published 11/28/23
Today I chat with an often requested guest—David Hayward, the Naked Pastor! An artist, former pastor, and exvangelical himself, David beautifull articulates his deconstruction journey, current spirituality, and how it all intersects with his art. Website: nakedpastor.com Instagram: @nakedpastor --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dtmpod/support
Published 11/21/23
Today I chat with Catherine Quiring, a licensed trauma therapist, self-trust coach, and exvangelical who helps exvangelicals learn to trust their desires and reconnect to their inner wisdom. She is the creator of the Trust Yourself Again Program: Reclaim your Inner Compass after Leaving Evangelical Subculture. Instagram @catherinequiring Courses: Trust Yourself Again: Reclaim Your Inner Compass After Leaving Evangelical Subculture https://www.cqcounseling.com/trust-yourself Covert...
Published 11/14/23
What an inspiring chat I had with author and pastor Kevin Sweeney about his latest book “The Joy of Letting Go.” Kevin shares the various aspects of his spiritual journey, from the point of coming to God after mushrooms, to pursuing seminary yet feeling confined by the rigid parameters he found there set before him. We talk about how so much of the spiritual journey is really composed of the simple but difficult work of letting go. Instagram: @kevinsweeney1 Podcast: The Church...
Published 11/07/23
Today I have such a fun chat in store for you all with comedian and podcast host Sydney Davis Jr. Jr. We talk about her journey leaving Christianity, discovering her passion for podcasting, and we bond over our love of giving others a platform to share their stories. Instagram: @sydneydavisjrjr Podcast: Growing Up Fundie --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dtmpod/support
Published 10/31/23
Today I talk with Austin Noll about American Christian culture and how it influenced him deeply in his Los Angeles nondenominational church setting. We discuss why churches can be so harmful and how he believes they might redeem their purpose in a more healthy way. Instagram: @austin_noll Book: A Jumble of Crumpled Papers Podcast: The Crumpled Papers Podcast --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dtmpod/support
Published 10/24/23
Today’s guest is podcast host, author, and mother Liz Enns Petters who chats with me about her childhood anxiety and how it intersected with deconstruction, what it’s like to have a well known a parent in academic theological scholarship, and how parenting during faith transitions has been for her. Instagram: @lizzennspetters @deconstructedmamas Facebook: Deconstructing Mamas Lizz Enns Petters, The Deconstructed Mama Podcast: Deconstructing Mamas Book: Deconstructing...
Published 10/17/23
Today’s conversation is with Michael Lecey who I found over at his podcast, A Certain Wandering. Michael shares his deconstruction story as well as how he’s now discovering a rich new spiritual walk. As a therapist and spiritual director who has experienced deconstruction and church hurt first hand, Michael seeks to walk people safely through the thresholds of their lives especially concerning religious and spiritual shifts. thethresholds.com @michaelecy Podcast: A Certain...
Published 10/10/23
My guest today Esther Goetz shares her story of growing up as a missionary kid who is now a deconstructed adult. She shares her experiences and wisdom about how to navigate a shifting faith in light of being a parent and someone who receives criticism for her public deconstruction platforms. We have such a great chat in store for you! estherjoygoetz.com @estherthedollymama @momsofbigs Facebook: Deconstructing Mamas Moms of Bigs Esther, the Dolly Mama Deconstructing Mamas...
Published 10/03/23
Today I get to chat with singer/songwriter Alanah Sabatini who is a former evangelical worship leader. We discuss her deconstruction, how it impacted her songwriting and life, her new single “True Colors,” and more! Instagram @alanah.don’t.wanna TikTok Alanahsabatini.bandcamp.com Discord https://discord.com/invite/6Gfdkw77m8 True Colors (Hymn Rewrite of ‘Come Thou Fount of Every Blessing’ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dtmpod/support
Published 09/26/23
My guest today is Grace Dellis—the creator and curator of Hyssop + Laurel, a grassroots arts and literary magazine for religious deconstructionists. We discuss her deconstruction journey, the intersection between trauma and religion, and the bridge that art can make for creatives leaving behind toxic religous systems and idealogies. Instagram: @gracedellis @hyssopandlaurel hyssopandlaurel.com Her chapbook “Signs and Wonders”: https://bottlecap.press/products/wonders --- Support this...
Published 09/19/23
Today’s guest is podcaster, speaker, former pastor, and musician Matt Kendziera who shares his story of being kicked out of the urban church he started and suddenly finding himself on the outside looking in and deciding to try a new approach. We discuss his new book Bring it Home: The Adventure of Finding Yourself after Being Lost in Religionand on how to keep joy in the middle of our deconstruction experiences. Check out www.mattkendziera.com Podcast: Chasing...
Published 09/12/23
Today’s guest is Keith from @unnecessarynoisesman . As a neurodivergent who found the Evangelical environment he grew up in to be extremely detrimental for his mental and social health/development, Keith shares some of his darkest moments, how he found the way through them, and how he hopes to build a brighter future for those who may find themselves in similar situations through a unique community called Arcem. We discuss his views on the dangers of corporate religion, the importance of...
Published 09/05/23
My conversation today is with Cynthia Vacca Davis about her book “Intersexion: A Story of Faith, Identity, and Authenticity” concerning her intersex friend Danny. We discuss how seeking to bring Danny’s story to the public caused unique tension in the Evangelical spaces Cynthia was a part of, as well as how to navigate the grey spaces of our faith by pressing into the core call to love others well. cynthiavaccadavis.com Lake Drive Books Author’s...
Published 08/29/23
Welcome to Season 3! Today’s guest is a prolific writer who has been a source of comfort and wisdom for me and so many others experiencing deconstruction. Liz Milani from the Practice Co. discusses the power of nuance, the importance of naming and unnamming things during deconstruction, and how deconstruction intersects with parenting. Connect with Liz at www.thepracticeco.com Instagram: @thepracticeco --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dtmpod/support
Published 08/22/23
In today’s episode we answer questions we received during this past season about the podcast and our own spiritualities. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dtmpod/support
Published 07/25/23
Today we have something a little different for you—a deconstruction meditation! Meditation has been invaluable on my (Liz) personal deconstruction journey. Today’s practice is helpful for dealing with anxiety that accompanies so many of us on our deconstruction journey. For more meditations visit https://youtube.com/@DeconstructingtheMyth --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dtmpod/support
Published 07/01/23
Nervous about discussing your deconstruction journey with critical relatives and friends? This episode is for you! We unpack 8 tips that can help you navigate uncomfortable conversations based around deconstruction. 1. Take honest inventory of the situation 2. Reframe your goal in “coming out” about deconstruction so it’s not based on their response alone 3. Be educated 4. Remember you don’t have to share everything all at once 5. If there is a boundary you want to set, rehearse it ahead of...
Published 06/21/23