In this conversation, Josh and Drew Darby discuss Matt Johnson's journey across Texas in 17 days and Sally McRae's 200 mile Mammoth Project. Drew Darby was there for both. They explore the challenges faced during the adventures, the dynamics of being a cameraman, and the unique character of Matt as a hybrid athlete. The discussion also touches on the mindset required for endurance sports, Project Mammoth featuring Sally McCrae, and what lies ahead for Matt in his athletic career. In this conversation, Drew and Josh delve into the intricacies of documenting endurance sports, exploring the balance between storytelling and authenticity. They discuss the evolution of endurance events, the creative process behind filmmaking, and the impact of media on athletes' performances. Drew shares insights on capturing genuine moments while navigating the challenges of filming in high-pressure environments. The conversation highlights the importance of long-term relationships in filmmaking and the unique experiences that arise during endurance challenges. ---- Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races - May 31, 2025 VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off. PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off. --- Borderlands Instagram YouTube Threads LinkedIn We've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.