Summary In this conversation, Dave Prior interviews Chris Hadnagy and Dr. Abbie Maroño about social engineering and human hacking. They discuss the definition of social engineering and how it differs from human hacking. They emphasize the importance of intent in social engineering, with the goal being to influence someone's actions for their benefit rather than to cause harm. They also explore the concept of imposter syndrome and how it affects different generations and genders. The conversation concludes with a discussion on how self-awareness can be used to be a better servant leader and understand others. In this conversation, Dr. Abbie and Chris Hadnagy discuss the importance of understanding human behavior and communication in various contexts. They emphasize the need to look beneath the surface when someone behaves badly and to consider their underlying needs. They also discuss the importance of self-awareness and understanding one's own communication style. They highlight the value of seeking credible information and avoiding misinformation, especially in the field of psychology. They provide insights into their courses and books that can help individuals improve their communication skills and become more effective in their personal and professional lives. This podcast was originally recorded in video format. You can find the video here: https://youtu.be/71cZz-ac-zc Takeaways Social engineering is the act of influencing someone to take an action that may or may not be in their best interest. Intent plays a crucial role in determining whether social engineering is positive or negative. Imposter syndrome is a universal human experience, but the way it is expressed can differ between generations and genders. Self-awareness is key to understanding and managing imposter syndrome and can be used to be a better servant leader. Understanding the emotions and motivations of others can help build empathy and improve relationships. Look beneath the surface when someone behaves badly and consider their underlying needs. Understand your own communication style and be aware of how it may impact others. Seek credible information and be cautious of misinformation, especially in the field of psychology. Take courses and read books to improve your communication skills and personal development. Chapters 00:18 Introduction and Background 10:26 Exploring Imposter Syndrome Across Generations 24:11 Understanding Others: Building Empathy 31:50 Seeking Credible Information 39:57 Challenging Simplistic Explanations Links from the podcast: Foundational Application of Social Engineering https://www.social-engineer.com/product/foundational-application-of-social-engineering/ Chris’s books on Amazon https://tinyurl.com/mrx6umcb Dr. Abbie’s Book Work in Progress: The Road to Empowerment, The Journey Through Shame https://tinyurl.com/jzbsu2ev Social-Engineer YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@Social-Engineer Dr. Abbie’s TEDX Manchester talk https://www.tedxmanchester.com/abbie-marono/ Contacting Chris Hadnagy Web: https://www.social-engineer.org/ Blog: https://www.social-engineer.org/blog/ LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy Contacting Dr. Abbie Maroño Web: https://www.abbiemarono.com LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/dr-abbie-maroño-phd-35ab2611a