WARNING: DISTURBING CONTENT. Thirty years ago this week, murder John Wayne Gacy was executed. Andrew Rule talks with Karen Conti, the lawyer who represented him through his final appeals. She talks about his horrific crimes, the death penalty and looking evil in the eye. Karen Conti's book: https://www.amazon.com.au/Killing-Time-John-Wayne-Gacy-ebook/dp/B0CR9GPSDG Audiobook version: https://www.audible.com.au/pd/Killing-Time-with-John-Wayne-Gacy-Audiobook/B0CW255FCJ Subscribe to Crime X+ to hear episodes early and ad free, unlock bonus content and access our slate of award-winning true crime podcasts Have a question for one of our Q+A shows? ask it at: [email protected] Like the show? Get more at https://heraldsun.com.au/andrewruleAdvertising enquiries: [email protected] Crimestoppers: https://crimestoppers.com.au/ If you or anyone you know needs help Lifeline: 13 11 14Beyond Blue: 1300 22 4636Kids Helpline: 1800 55 1800 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.