In this episode, seasoned copywriter Kevin Rogers shares his vast expertise in the world of copywriting. With years of experience, Kevin has become a trusted voice in the industry, known for helping businesses craft persuasive, data-driven copy that converts. He discusses his journey from stand-up comedy to copywriting and how the skills of engaging an audience on stage have translated into his ability to captivate readers through effective copy. Kevin emphasizes the need for entrepreneurs to take an active role in the copywriting process, explaining that while delegating to experts is essential, business owners must provide clear direction to ensure the copy aligns with their brand voice. Throughout the conversation, Kevin highlights the common mistakes business owners make when hiring copywriters, particularly when it comes to recognizing bogus professionals. He also dives into practical strategies, such as the importance of refreshing ad copy regularly and understanding the different mindsets required when writing for platforms like Facebook versus Google. The episode wraps up with Kevin stressing that hiring a skilled copywriter is an investment that can drive significant returns, as great copy directly impacts sales and conversions. CHAPTER TITLES 1:06 - Meet Kevin: A Veteran in the Copywriting Space 2:40 - The Importance of Delegating Copywriting to Experts 4:46 - The 90% Rule: Getting the Right Lead and Hook 5:30 - How to Avoid Hiring a Bogus Copywriter 7:23 - Why Data-Driven Copy Matters More Than Ever 9:05 - Writing Ad Copy for Facebook vs. Google: A Different Mindset 10:20 - Finding the Balance Between Selling and Creativity 12:45 - Copy Tweaks That Skyrocket Conversions 15:00 - Emphasizing Ad Refreshes: How a Small Boost Translates to Big Gains 17:45 - Why a Good Copywriter is an Investment, Not an Expense Connect with Kevin Rodgers: WEBSITE - https://copychief.com/ IG - Therealcopychief YT - Copy Chief Connect with Rudy Mawer: LinkedIn Instagram Facebook Twitter