This is one episode that we hope all women who are pregnant listen to... because this is such an ear-opening discussion about how we as women & birthing people protect ourselves through pregnancy, labour, and birth. In this episode, we invited Dr. Erin Bowe back onto the podcast. Dr. Erin Bowe is a Clinical & Perinatal Psychologist, Course Creator, Business Mentor, and Author. Host of the Mum as You Are podcast. She teaches over 2700 students from 42 countries. As seen in the Sydney Morning Herald, Kidspot & more. To work with Dr. Erin CLICK HERE The topic for this episode is an important one because we talk about how we are wired to protect ourselves through the Fight, Flight, Freeze or FAWN (Appease) response) and we wanted to specifically speak to the 'Fawn or Appease' response because we believe that many of us as women and birthing people don't realise that this is a protective response we go into. Please share this with anyone you may know who is expecting a baby as this is such an important topic to be aware of. To work with Nicola or Shari please see the links below to their programs To work with Shari visit www.belly2birth.com.au To work with Nicola visit www.nicolalaye.com