It’s so easy to take ourselves too seriously. It’s okay to laugh at ourselves! Babylon Bee is helping us to do that while causing us to think about real issues with their laugh-out-loud fake news stories. Joel Barry is one of the comedic geniuses behind the world-famous satirical news website –  Babylon Bee – and coauthor of The Babylon Bee Guide to the Apocalypse. While other books just tell you that we’re doomed and the collapse of western civilization is imminent, only The Babylon Bee...

Each of us, regardless of our upbringing, must make a decision to follow Jesus. For Shawna it was the moment she prayed, “Even if my family turns away, I will keep following you Jesus.” Perry shares, “The only reason I love Jesus and want to share him with others is because he loved me at my worst. I need to come back to the simplicity of that.” Perry says, “the feelings of shame once told me, ‘what you’ve done wrong is who you are and who you’ll always be.’ I now know for certain that’s a...

E.Z. has endured his own spiritual battles in life. By 15 years old, he had been expelled from two schools, joined the Crips gang, was a rap artist who struggled with substance abuse. He later attempted suicide in front of his family. In 1991, he underwent a profound transformation after hearing the gospel and turned his life over to Christ. By twenty-one, E.Z. was an ordained pastor attending a Christian university, married, and had started a family. Emeal “E.Z.” Zwayne is the president of...

Why is everyone so angry all the time? Dr. Jim Wilder of Life Model Works  and author of Escaping Enemy Mode: How Our Brains Unite or Divide Us offers that it’s because we are in enemy mode. There are different types of enemy mode. Simple Enemy Mode is when our brains see the person in front of us as a problem to be solved.  In that moment, we are not loving others like Jesus does. Stupid Enemy mode is when we respond out of the heat of the moment in a way doesn’t represent who we truly...

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Mark Clark grew up in Toronto with no church, no faith, completely skeptical and with an atheist father. He didn’t believe in the resurrection because his modern mind couldn’t believe in miracles plus he was just offended by Jesus teachings. And now he’s a pastor. Wait, what? Mark’s a pastor at Bayside Church in Sacramento and has written some powerful books including The Problem of Jesus: Answering a Skeptics' Challenges to the Scandal of Jesus. Then Shawna’s daughter who lives in the...

Shawna jumped up and wrapped a stranger in a hug so she could whisper in her ear, “Your zipper’s down.” She wanted her to know the truth.  God is the friend who will always lovingly tell you the truth. Perry shares, “I wonder if you’ve ever felt like giving up. I have.” Perry’s been in a season of wrestling with regrets and wondering if his work is making any difference. As Shawna was promising her daughter that she would never leave her, their hands ripped apart and they went in completely...

That’s the overflow of singer-songwriter Rebecca St. James’ heart as she reflects on Jesus believing in her and her family, giving them a hope and a future only he could have provided. Singer-songwriter Rebecca Saint James is here! In case you don’t know the film Unsung Hero tells her family’s incredible story. In 1990, after his music company fails, David Smallbone and his pregnant wife Helen take a leap of faith, moving their seven children from Australia to Nashville.  With only their...

Your kids will always be your kids. The trick is figuring out how to adapt to the new phases in that parent-child relationship. Dr. Gary Chapman, author of The Five Love Languages, has written a new book with Dr. Ross Campbell called Your New Life with Adult Children: A Practical Guide to What Helps, What Hurts, and What Heals. Whether it’s not agreeing with the decisions they make, failure to launch, or strained relationships with your kid’s spouse’s Dr. Chapman offers sage wisdom. Maybe...

When you come to the place that you simply cannot do any more – that may be where you feel the most vulnerable. But that seems to be when we lean wholeheartedly into trusting God – and there isn’t anything that He can’t do! As much as we don’t want to look at our sin it’s important for us to realize how sin impacts us - our sin, the sins of others, and the sin of the world. The people around us influence us. It’s important to realize that we are shaped by who we spend our time with. The...

Singer and songwriter, Mac Powell, who used to be with Third Day,  joins us today to share how he came to give his life to Jesus and what it cost him to do so. His music is reaching the generations with the good news that Jesus changes us and makes us a New Creation. Support the show:...

What you think is true is reel. What really is true is real.  What our eyes see physically and what our thoughts tell us can seem so real. But there’s a deeper truth that our physical eyes and subconscious beliefs cannot see. Only the eyes of our heart can see what is truly real. In other words, much of what we think is true – is a lie. Jody Hoffman, coach with Identity Exchange, shares that when her husband, Buddy went to be with Jesus she found herself “alone.” That is what her eyes could...

Do you ever feel heavy or anxious?  Work, kids, finances, the future, the past, the state of the world can all threaten your joy, hope, and trust. From the first page of history, God has been teaching us about rest. That God rested on the 7th day has nothing to do with him ceasing to work but rather him taking up his uncontested throne to rule. Giving us a firm foundation when life spins out of control! Bible study teacher and lifelong student Rachel Booth Smith joins us to point to the...

Lukan, a Perry and Shawna listener asks: How do I have free will if God is 100% sovereign and knows all that will happen? Biblical scholar Dr. Jeremy Grinnell earned his Ph.D. in Systematic Theology from Calvin in Grand Rapids, MI, and taught theology in seminary for nearly 15 years. He takes on Bible questions in today’s podcast. In addition to answering the above question, Jeremy also takes on these amazing questions! Are there contradictions in the Bible? What is B-side Christianity?...

She set out to write a book about God’s extravagant love. It was supposed to be a 10 month project and then life blindsided Quina. And that brought her to the place where she thought God hated her. Then, the book that should have taken 10 months took 4 years. In that time, the silence of God, and the lack of answers gave way to the comfort of God and a hard won assurance of God’s love, for her, for our world. Quina Aragon, spoken word artist and author of Love Has A Story: 100 Meditations...

Imagine a place you could go to meet with other believers. Believers who’ve studied the Word and have written books on the faith. Imagine you could walk into the room and ask a question about God or the Bible and the expert in the room on that topic comes forward to sit with you over a cup of coffee – sharing insights from their book in a brief conversation. There is such a place, sort of. Chris Martin, editor of Bible to Life, and Director of content for Moody Radio, tells us about Bible...

Perry admits, “I’ve been going through a season of some depression and accusations from my conscience, and the enemy. On one hand it’s embarrassing to admit, but on the other, what freedom to admit to my humanness and know that I’m not suffering because God’s punishing me!” Shawna got grumpy yesterday so she woke up this morning and decided to try harder. Then she realized she was trading God’s power for will power. What if, instead, we apply our efforts AND ask God for what we need? Then,...

What do you think about AI (Artificial Intelligence)? Do you fear how it might be used for evil? Out of fear are you keeping your distance? What if God would use what the enemy means for evil, for good? He does! Andre Echevarria is the U.S. digital strategies leader of Cru. He shares how Cru is using AI to introduce young people to the God who loves them! Andre likens AI to an Advanced Intern.  With the right guidance and guard rails it can be a very useful tool. Andre shares a story of a...

A 15 year old doesn’t know how to process loss. When Morgan’s dad told her he had stage 4 liver cancer she pulled back from relationship with him instead of leaning in to her last 6 weeks with him. Along with carrying the grief of losing her dad she also carried shame for the way she handled it. Morgan Krueger, author of Goodbye Hiding, Hello Freedom , takes us to the moment her dad spoke to her through a letter she received after he had passed. That letter held the truth she needed to hear...

Dan Seaborn, founder of Winning at Home, asks Perry & Shawna what their perfect day would look like.  “Texts from the kids saying what great parents we are.  Recording the perfect song. The whole family getting along – even while playing a board game.” Basically – everything going the way we’d want it to. Because if everything is good than God must be good, right? Isaiah 55:8-9 says that God’s thoughts are higher than ours and His ways are higher. Have you ever wondered what He thinks...

Perry says, “I want to be in the center of God’s will and know that I’m pleasing him but I often wonder if I’m just doing my own thing and stamping God’s name on it.”  “God, what am I doing that you want me to stop doing?” Shawna asked that question of the Lord and when she stilled herself to listen the Lord spoke tender truth to her soul. Perry shares, “I not only wrestle with wondering if I’m in God’s will but also if I’m safe in God’s family. And when I wrestle with assurance I have 2...

At 12 years old, as she rode in the car with her sister and dad to her mother’s funeral, the thought that haunted her was “God must hate me; I must be the reason my mom died.” Cindy Brinker Simmons is a bestselling author, business woman and philanthropist who cares deeply about helping people in the midst of life’s challenges.  She’s the author of Restored: Reconnecting Life’s Broken Pieces. Cindy offers tender words of wisdom for those grieving in Hamilton, MI with the recent loss of two...

Esther was given one of the world’s hardest assignments: to protect God’s special people from genocide. But it wasn’t because she was extra-brave or super-extraordinary. In fact, other than her beauty, she was a normal girl. But her life reminds us that every one of us has a purpose and that it sometimes takes great patience and risk to live it out. Dannah Gresh, founder of True Girl, and author of Esther: Becoming A Girl of Purpose, a devotional for tween girls, joins us to discuss the...

In Dr. Suess’ Horton Hears A Who one day Horton the elephant hears a cry for help coming from a dust speck. Turns out that tiny little speck of dust is home to a city called Whoville. And the cry came from one very small little Who. Shawna confesses to feeling small and invisible at times in this great big universe. But God, like Horton, hears us! There are moments in the human experience, in the middle of a day, when you’re in a dark place and you might think, “This is going to go on...