This week I spiraled out with the brilliant & SUPER funny stand up comic & writer Amy Silverberg! (Comedy Central, The Paris Review)  We talked Jewish parents, boundaries, talking about your students and boyfriends in your stand up, fake vs real vulnerability, codependency and hurting people more in trying NOT to hurt them, how being teased can feel like love, being a recovered ghoster, and SO MUCH MORE. Amy also shared several juicy shame stories AND we went deep into the world of her relationship with her now infamous therapist, DR. BARBARA.  Amy's debut novel First Time, Long Time is forthcoming from Grand Central Publishing in 2024, and you can spy her short fiction in The New Yorker, The Paris Review, Best American Short Stories, and more. She performs stand up regularly in LA and tours all over the country- follow her on Instagram & Twitter @amysilverberg and TikTok @amysilverbergrules to stay in the know of her upcoming shows!  You can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok @elykreimendahl, and the pod on Twitter and Instagram @podshamespiral, where I'm regularly posting fun video clips of especially juicy or hilarious moments from the episodes.  And if you're enjoying the pod, please rate, review and subscribe! If you do, I will SPIRAL-but in the good way.   Editor: Kalie McAlexander, Twitter @kaliebud & IG @kaliebudd Original Music: Shadwick Wilde, Instagram and Twitter: @shadwickwilde Cover Art: Cassidy Kulhanek, Instagram, Twitter and TikTok: @heavenlygrandpa twitter.com/podshamespiral instagram.com/podshamespiral instagram.com/elykreimendahl tiktok.com/@elykreimendahl twitter.com/elykreimendahl