Did you know what the ending of a customer relationship has to do with Sustainability? No? Well, than this episode is perfect for you: We had a very special and inspiring guest. The worlds first Endineer (yes, Endineer) Joe Macleod. Joe wrote two books about this topic and with his company AndEnd he works on how we design better endings of customer relationships. We spoke about the importance of better endings of the customer relationship and its strong relation to sustainability. It became a very deep and inspiring conversation, about endineering and sustainability and Joes personal way into the whole topic. If you want to learn how to become an Endineer and why you should become one to design more sustainability products, you should not miss this new episode of the SUX podcast.  In case you like what you hear, feel free to subscribe, follow and like our podcast. And if you haven't already done so, we invite you to join the SUX network as well. Connect with our guest or us: Joes Channels: LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/josephmacleod/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/andend/ AndEnd Website http://www.andend.co/ Twitter @mrmacleod  @andend_co Instagram @mrmacleod @andend.co Hash tags. #Endineering #DesignEnds Sources from the episode: Endineering cohort course 7. Starts Sept 12th. https://learn.endineering.co/courses/Endineering-course-cohort-7-Starts-Sept-12th A 25% off discount code for SUX audience. CODE: 25offendscohort More about the Endineering Cohort https://www.andend.co/cohort Endings For Businesses https://www.andend.co/starting-your-end Links to the books: The Endineering book https://www.amazon.com/dp/9163947846/ Ends book https://www.amazon.com/dp/9163936445/ Links to E-Books. with 25% off: https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/744267 Discount code: HA44R https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/1116883 Discount code: GB56T Our Channels: Bavo's ⁠⁠Linkedin⁠⁠  Thorsten's ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠  Isabel's ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠  SUX ⁠⁠Slack Community⁠⁠  SUX ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠  SUX ⁠⁠Website⁠⁠ Email us at ⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠ to share your feedback or suggest future guests.