The king welcomes Kira Davis, a writer, podcaster, filmmaker, and serves as the deputy editor of Red State. Her latest book is titled Drawing Lines: Why Conservatives Must Begin to Battle Fiercely in the Arena of Ideas. Kira has built a brand on reaching out to the other side, on giving people space to be wrong, the space to discuss, the space to tolerate. Unfortunately, the people controlling the public conversations right now will have none of it. We’re seeing the lengths they will go to and the lies they let stand in service of crushing 50 percent of this nation. They seek unity through complete elimination of the other side. There are times for compromise and times to draw a line in the sand; the latter has arrived. Kira says it's time for Christians and Conservatives to draw our lines. Subscribe to the King of Stuff Spotify playlist featuring picks from the show. This week’s track is “Sure Shot” by Beastie Boys. For video versions of the interviews, subscribe to Jon’s YouTube or Rumble channel!