The conversation discusses the difference between will-powering through urges to binge and no longer having the desire to binge. It emphasizes that distracting oneself or trying harder is not a sustainable solution to overcome binge eating. Lorna shares that getting rid of urges requires rewiring the brain and using brain-based tools. The conversation highlights the importance of sustainable strategies to conquer binge eating and achieve long-term freedom from urges.00:00 The Difference Betwe...