Summary In this conversation, Jeb and Jen discuss a method called the hot air balloon game, which is a form of tracking without counting calories. It involves filling in a chart with different colored squares to represent the quality of meals and snacks. The goal is to have more green squares (representing high-quality choices) and fewer yellow and red squares (representing okay and indulgent choices). They also talk about the importance of mindset and curiosity in making sustainable changes, as well as the need to remove guilt and shame from the equation. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the value of finding what works for each individual and building a supportive environment for healthy habits. Jen Broxterman, RD shares her approach to coaching, which focuses on curiosity and client-centeredness. She emphasizes the importance of taking a 10,000-foot view of clients' lives, considering all the elements that impact their health and well-being. She encourages coaches to be open to trying different approaches and to give clients permission to experiment and change course. Jen also discusses her certification program, which helps coaches enhance their skills and tools to better serve their clients. She shares her personal journey of overcoming stage three ovarian cancer and how it has shaped her coaching and perspective on life. Coaches: grab your free resources from Prosper Nutrition here If you are interested in the Prosper Nutrition Certification click here Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 03:04 The Hot Air Balloon Game: A New Approach to Nutrition Coaching 13:35 Tracking Without Counting: The Benefits of the Hot Air Balloon Game 19:11 Using Motivational Interviewing and Powerful Questions in Nutrition Coaching 25:23 The Power of Curiosity, Kindness, and Honesty in Mindset and Behavior Change 38:22 Coaching with Curiosity and Client-Centered Approach 40:57 From Taskmaster to Compassionate Coach 46:31 Enhancing Coaching Skills with Jen's Certification Program 54:17 Lessons from Jen's Experience with Ovarian Cancer 01:13:23 Living Each Day with Intention and Appreciation 01:14:57 Investing in Personal Development as a Coach