In this episode of "Into the Magic Shop," host Dr. Jim Doty interviews evolutionary biologist and biomimicry expert, Tamsin Woolley-Barker. They discuss her research on baboons and human evolution. They also explore the shift from mechanistic thinking to living design, the challenges of human interaction, and the potential for organizations to scale exponentially. The conversation further delves into the importance of indigenous knowledge in conservation efforts and the need for respect and understanding of local traditions. The episode emphasizes the need for studying and understanding the natural world, designing systems based on its principles, and fostering inclusivity and belonging.