In this short entry on Eusebius on TimesLIVE, the host initiates debate on a viral video. In it, Limpopo health MEC Dr Phophi Ramathuba is seen and heard berating a foreigner who is scheduled for surgery. McKaiser frames a political, medical ethics and realpolitik debate. He argues that her remarks are incompatible with appropriate forums for raising political concerns with other countries. He also opines that her remarks are incompatible with medical ethics. McKaiser adds that ANC politicians are scapegoating foreigners to avoid accountability for their systemic and leadership failures. Hear how he supports these arguments and decide where you fit in to this ongoing debate.