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Lt. Gen Michael Groen USMC (Ret)

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The former Director of the Pentagon’s Joint Artificial Intelligence Center joins us in The Cipher Brief Studio to talk about why technology is not enough when it comes to maintaining a competitive edge in national security over China. If the US doesn’t organize as well as it innovates, there will be no victory.

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