Doris Kearns Goodwin, historian and author of "An Unfinished Love Story: A Personal History of the 1960s" joins Chuck to talk about what she learned working on a biography of someone unusually close to her life — her husband, Dick.

Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-Wash.), chair of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, joins Chuck for an exit interview on what she’s learned during her decades in Congress, and her ongoing fight to regulate Big Tech.