This is a conversation about DRS, VAR and the role of technology in decision making in cricket and football.  Daisy Christodoulou's insightful and widely read twitter thread about VAR prompted this episode. She is an educationist who has a special interest in the problem of assessments. Jonathan Wilson covers football for The Guardian and a few other publications. He's the author of 11 books, including Inverting the Pyramid and Angels with Dirty Faces. Daniel Norcross is a cricket commentator for the BBC's Test Match Special. Daisy tweets @daisychristo Jonathan tweets @jonawils Daniel tweets @norcrosscricket Notes: Daisy's Twitter thread about VAR   My thread about the Stokes DRS review   Jonathan's review of the 2019 Copa America Semi Final  This episode was recorded on February 23, 2020.