If you're an American evangelical or used to be, there's a good chance you've heard of the Enneagram. You may have even run into it in another context or heard about it from friends who are really into personality tests. We've discussed it briefly on the show before, and we've wanted to eventually give it its own episode because Randy has found it really beneficial and Kyle is a bit of a skeptic. Lo and behold, one of our Patreon supporters, Jeff Cook, is, like, the Enneagram guru, in addition to having a background as both a pastor and a philosopher. Go figure. Jeff reached out and proposed a conversation about what the Enneagram is, what its particular strengths are, and some of Kyle's objections to it. He's joined by TJ Wilson, his co-host of Around the Circle and two other Enneagram-focused podcasts. It's a fun, serious, personal, and respectful conversation about a topic that a lot of Christians today care a lot about. An argument, in the best sense.* Some resources mentioned in the conversation are: Around the Circle podcastStart Here podcastMovie Typing podcastWhat’s Wrong with the Enneagram (Kyle's article) The beverages sampled in this episode are: Glenmorangie SignetWhiskey Acres Straight RyeFounders Brewing Co. Breakfast Stout To skip the tasting, go to 3:38. You can find the transcript for this episode here. *Note: in philosophy, arguments are good things. =====Listen to our first post-episode Q&A segment reflecting on our recent conversation about LGBTQ affirmation and the church at our Patreon (free for everyone).To chat with us and Bridget Eileen Rivera on August 17, subscribe at the Pappy level. To join us for our next private tasting on August 18, subscribe at the Top Shelf or Pappy levels. ===== Want to support us? The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount. If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info: Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify Tweet us at @PPWBPodcast, @robertkwhitaker, and @RandyKnie Follow & message us on Facebook & Instagram Watch & comment on YouTube Email us at [email protected] Cheers!