In an episode recorded in the studio back in March, Julia talks to journalist and writer Helen Lewis about her book, Difficult Women: A History of Feminism in 11 Fights, which uncovers the more unpalatable, imperfect sides of the pioneers who achieved some of the greatest gains for women throughout history. She explains that we need to see these women in all their nuances and imperfections, in order to remind ourselves that they’re not superhumans and that we’re all capable of fighting for change, no matter what mistakes we make. In the process, women should stop being “nice” and start being more “difficult” when it comes to pushing for equality, Helen says. If you enjoyed this episode or any others, please rate and review us on your preferred podcast provider. It really helps us reach more listeners with our message of a more gender-equal world.   Any earnings from the podcast go back into funding for the Global Institute for Women’s Leadership, furthering the work we do to create a world in which being a woman is not a barrier to becoming a leader.   Sign up to receive updates and event invitations from the Global Institute for Women’s Leadership via our website.   See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.