Hope is dead. Long live hope! Whereas once hope was simply an audacious wish that we turned over to representatives of power, hope now can be a radical act through which we erode power. But how? How do we leverage hope to help us direct and engage rather than simply wish and spectate? To investigate this, I asked one of the most exciting and influential political thinkers of our time, JOHN HOLLOWAY. John is the author of many influential and internationally recognized books, including Hope in Hopeless Times (the last in a series of books about how to find new strategies of flourishing and living away from capitalism, starting with Change the World Without Taking Power: The Meaning of Revolution Today and its sequel, Crack Capitalism.) He teaches sociology in the Benemérita Universidad Autónoma de Puebla, and has worked with the Zapatista movement. In this episode, we talk about hope without delusion. Dreaming big without forgetting to act, acting small without forgetting the big vision, how and why we need to get rid of money, and more. I'm so happy to have spoken with John and to share this with you!