Michael Spayd is the co-founder of The Collective Edge, which seeks to “transform the transformers.” In this episode, Spayd shares some of his thinking behind his new book “Agile Transformation” and reminds us of the difference between organizational transformation and what he calls “a big adoption.” Leaders are key to the chances of success: “If you’re going to transform [your organization], you’re almost certainly the first problem,” because “organizations are designed to get the results that they get.” Oh, and we take a tangent to consider the connection between quantum physics, integral theory and meditation. Accenture | SolutionsIQ’s William Rowden hosts. Learn More: “Agile Transformation” by Michael Spayd - https://www.amazon.com/Coaching-Agile-Enterprise-Organizational-Addison-Wesley/dp/0321885317/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1602615915&sr=8-2 All Quadrants, All Levels (AQAL) - https://integrallife.com/five-elements-aqal/ Systemic constellations – https://www.the-collective-edge.com/systemic-consciousness Quantum Enigma -  https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Enigma-Physics-Encounters-Consciousness/dp/0199753814/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=quantum+enigma&qid=1602616136&sr=8-1