EPISODE 42 of ‘All About Art’: Ministry of Arts Podcast Crossover with Gary Mansfield This episode is a podcast SPECIAL, because it is a crossover episode with Gary Mansfield, founder and host of the MINISTRY OF ARTS podcast (so after you listen to me interview Gary here on All About Art, head over to his podcast here to tune in to him interviewing me!) Gary has had quite the unconventional introduction to the art world. He came into contact with the arts during a 14-year prison sentence he was serving. Listen in to hear him tell me about what it was like to encounter the arts in that atmosphere, and how it impacted him. Gary is a practicing artist himself, so we also talk about his methods of making and what moves him to create his work. We chat about inclusivity in the arts, what needs to change, and how his nearly 200 episodes of interviews with various artists and cultural practitioners have influenced his view on the sector. Thank you Gary for the collaboration, it was so much fun! Things we discussed... Episode 100 with Gary Mansfield… interviewing Gary Mansfield! (Listen here) Episode 51 with Maggi Hambling (Listen here) Episode 174 with Dion Kitson: (Listen here) You can support All About Art on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/allaboutart ABOUT THE HOST: I am an Austrian-American art historian, curator, and writer. I obtained my BA in History of Art at University College London and my MA in Arts Administration and Cultural Policy at Goldsmiths, University of London. My specializations include contemporary art, specifically feminism and artificial intelligence in artistic practice, as well as museum policies and arts engagement. Here are links to my social media, feel free to reach out: Instagram @alexandrasteinacker Twitter @alex_steinacker and LinkedIn at Alexandra Steinacker-Clark COVER ART: Lisa Schrofner a.k.a Liser www.liser-art.com