Gavin Ortlund is an accomplished author, scholar, and YouTuber. He is also the Pastor at First Baptist Church in Ojai, California. He can often be found engaging with some of the most difficult topics in Christendom his YouTube channel, Truth Unites. Whether introducing complex philosophical concepts or debating Catholic apologists on the core tenets of our faith, Gavin is a Christian thinker you should know. In this conversation, Gavin and Jeremy discuss how to engage with people who see the world differently than us. They also discuss the beauty of the Gospel in the face of a growing deconstructionist movement. Check out Gavin's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TruthUnites Reach out to Jeremy: [email protected]