Katie decides one day to go around the house like some sort of detective and point out the absolute epitome of laziness! And no one was able to get away with it - husbands also beware! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Rach felt like a kid again when she turned up to something new and felt like she didn't fit in. Although she definitely did give off 'don't talk to me, I'm not a social Mum today' vibes! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode, Katie talks about the fine line between being honest with her kids and not wanting to pass on her anxieties. Should we be real or let them just be care free kids?! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.