What’s up yall this is Jon Lowrance with Anesthesia Guidebook.  I’m really excited to bring you this episode on the future of healthcare with Dr Navin Goyal and Saket Agrawal of OFFOR Health. This is episode 79 of anesthesia guidebook and it’s coming out on June 24, 2022. This is one of the most interesting conversations I’ve had with contributors to this show.  Navin & Saket are here to discuss what the future looks like – or what it could look like – for physicians in healthcare.  They hit on something that’s not talked about very much in medical school or residency programs or every around the OR amongst your colleagues, which is “what more can you do” as a physician anesthesiologist?  What else is out there?  Graduating from medical school and completing your residency is really just the beginning – or as Navin puts it – fills one particular bucket in your career.  But there are other possibilities out there and now more than ever, he and Saket want to share with you how physicians can engage in new ventures and roles both in the healthcare sector and beyond as a way to leverage the value you bring as a highly trained clinician. They unpack this story and create this invitation to look beyond your clinical practice through sharing the story of OFFOR Health and the path they’ve been on as business partners.  So let me tell you a little about each of them and then we’ll get to it… Navin Goyal, MD Navin Goyal, MD is a physician anesthesiologist and a co-founder of SmileMD, a mobile anesthesiology startup that is aiming to change the accessibility of anesthesia to small practices. He is also a co-founder of Loud Capital, a venture capital firm that provides financial support to early-stage startups as well as value-added services such as business development and guidance in scaling sales operations. Navin received his MD from the University of Cincinnati College of Medicine and trained in anesthesiology at the University of Chicago Medical Center. Saket Agrawal  Saket is the CEO of OFFOR Health, a company that brings access to specialists closer to home by partnering with local dentists and medical offices to deliver specialized care. Saket became CEO of OFFOR Health in 2016 after working for years in the technology space in Silicon Valley.  Sakate graduated from The Ohio State University with training in computer science and engineering, earned his MBA in North Carolina, and worked in tech in San Francisco for nearly 10 years before SmileMD’s mission drew him back to Columbus. So one of the contextual frameworks we worked off of in planning this discussion was physician anesthesiologist burnout.  Navin is going to share with you his own story of being over a decade into his clinical practice at a large academic medical center when he began to feel bored with the daily grind and started wondering what else was out there.  We talked before we recorded this about the MedScape 2022 Physician Burnout & Depression survey.  Now this is a survey I’ve been following for several years and sharing in my own talks at anesthesia conferences on wellness.  Each year, Medscape surveys around 13-15,000 physicians across 29 specialities and reports data on burnout,