For episode 66 we are back in the conservation lab, visiting with the one and only Joanna Phillips. For any listeners familiar with time-based media conservation, Joanna hardly needs any introduction — she was among the first generation of practitioners in this field,  and the second ever time-based media conservator at a US museum. At the Guggenheim Joanna established the first museum time-based media conservation lab. Her work has been incredibly influential in the field — she developed a series of incredibly helpful templates for documenting time-based media while at the Guggenheim that went on to be borrowed, copied, and iterated on by museums all over the globe. Joanna has always been incredibly generous in sharing her work — years ago she used to host these fantastic gatherings where TBM conservators in NYC could gather in the Guggenheim’s lab to hear about the latest research that she and Deena Engel’s NYU students were conducting as part of they Conservation of Computer Based Art Initiative. In our chat we hear all about these origins, and what Joanna has been up to in recent years in Düsseldorf where she has not only been leading the Düsseldorf Conservation Center, but also recently published volume co-edited with Deena Engel, with contributions from time-based media conservators, curators, registrars, and technicians from all over the globe. Tune in to hear Joanna’s story! Links from the conversation with Joanna > https://www.guggenheim.org/conservation/the-conserving-computer-based-art-initiative > https://www.guggenheim.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/guggenheim-conservation-iteration-report-2012.pdf > https://www.duesseldorf.de/restaurierungszentrum > https://www.routledge.com/Conservation-of-Time-Based-Media-Art/Engel-Phillips/p/book/9780367460426 Get access to exlusive content - join us on Patreon! > https://patreon.com/artobsolescence Join the conversation: https://www.instagram.com/artobsolescence/ Support artists Art and Obsolescence is a non-profit podcast, sponsored by the New York Foundation for the Arts, and we are committed to equitably supporting artists that come on the show. Help support our work by making a tax deductible gift through NYFA here: https://www.artandobsolescence.com/donate