Former education secretary Justine Greening joins Julie Etchingham in Episode Five to explain why the government is better at handling potholes than people and needs to change. The daughter of a Rotherham steel worker and first openly gay government minister resigned from the cabinet in 2018, before ultimately quitting Parliament, after then-PM Theresa May surprisingly moved her out of the key role in pushing social mobility. Now pursuing the goal outside politics, Justine critiques the government's pandemic performance, explains what Boris Johnson got wrong when it came to Matt Hancock's exit and recounts the emotional moment she tweeted the truth about her sexual orientation. You can read more about Justine's Social Mobility Pledge and why she's pursuing 14 levelling up goals across businesses, NHS Trusts, Councils and universities at https://www.levellingupgoals.org/