Today Jepson sits down with Ed Watal, the founder and principal of Intellibus, an IT strategy consultancy with 65 transformation consultants. Ed gives advice for IT strategy and architecture due to his business acumen and deep IT knowledge and he has also built and sold various Tech and AI startups. Jepson and Ed talk about self awareness and AI, and what makes us individuals and separates us from machine intelligence. They discuss World Digital Governance and rules and ethics that need to be set in order to make sure AI tech is not abused, especially with the general public that just doesn’t understand how it works. Coming to the US to work for Deutsche Bank 7:00The banking industry and archaic systems 13:30Building good culture 20:15The future Ed hopes to have a voice in 25:20Self awareness 31:30The infographics 39:00Falling prey to external validation from AI 46:20World Digital Governance 51:15Potential problems people should be thinking about with AI 59:30Jepson’s view on AI and ethics 68:50“If you think of all discovery as just art and it’s just this giant jigsaw puzzle with the X that you were trying to solve, then maybe that’s what it is. It’s like solving a jigsaw, but solving a jigsaw presumes that you sort of know what you’re trying to get to and you have an intuitive, or some sort of higher sense of the outcome. The question is, does AI have that awareness or that sense of an outcome? Where does that sense come from? They say it comes from intuition, from something else. People who are spiritual will say it’s your higher self, you’re connected to something in the Universe, it depends on whether you’re purely Darwinian, spiritual, or somewhere in the middle.” 37:24