In this episode, we spoke with Chi Ryan National Experience Strategy Lead at PwC. Chi Ryan makes meaningful products, services and experiences for humans, and humanity — and she’s passionate about empowering others to do the same. She has worked with many of the big names in service design including Fjord, Isobar and Idean and she is now the experience strategy lead at PwC. We talked about Ancient Egypt and Graham Hancock, using video and motion to communicate, teaching and learning, the circular economy and how we can wake people up to think differently. Chi also shared The Circular Design Program and highlighted the responsibility designers have towards fighting to eradicate industrial waste and pollution. Special thanks to our friends Streamtime for their ongoing support. Check them out at streamtime.net. Get a free account. Try them out. It'll be time well spent. Links: https://grahamhancock.com Do What You Can’t https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG7dSXcfVqE Jodorowsky’s Dune Trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg4OCeSTL08 Jodorowsky meets Kanye West https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7Qdc2ggPHc The Circular Design Program https://www.dezeen.com/2019/06/11/ellen-macarthur-circular-economy-designers/ Kaching Film https://kachingfilm.com