In Part 2 of our discussion with Melissa Harris, Deputy Director, Disabled and Elderly Health Programs Group, Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), we focus on the Home and Community Based Services (HCBS) Settings Rule. The Settings Rule has been the source of much discussion, debate and dread. We discuss the rules around person-centered plans, unfunded mandates, "settings that isolate," and heightened scrutiny in the states. ••• Please pardon the technical difficulties, Ms. Harris had some difficulties with her connection but in almost all cases the audio can be understood.