On this episode of AvTalk, we learn that the cause of the NATS outage at the end of August was two identically named waypoints 4,000 miles apart. Plus, we discover Discover Airlines, learn a thing or two from an air traffic controller, and dig into the report of a Nordwind Airlines A321 that suffered a hard landing in Turkey a few years ago. Thank you for listening! Thank you so much for listening to AvTalk! Like the podcast? Have suggestions for future shows? Let us know by leaving a review on iTunes. Reviews on iTunes not only help us make a better show, they help more people find the podcast! Want to send us additional feedback, just email us. And tell that friend who asked you for a podcast recommendation that AvTalk is the one they want to listen to next. Click here to download a transcript of this episode.