We have gotten a lot of questions about gaslighting and narcissism, and today Dr. Kim is answering. This topic is layered and one podcast episode cannot take the place of more in-depth interventions, but we can offer helpful and hopeful next steps. In today’s episode we’re covering how to know what constitutes abuse versus the sin nature we all struggle with. Listen for    We pray this episode is helpful for you and your marriage.    Episode highlights include:   Marriage counseling doesn’t work with abusers – So what does? Can a marriage recover after long-term gaslighting?  How to diagnose abuse using the power and control wheel Does the “gray rock” strategy work in marriage?   Reasons why emotional abuse is often dismissed    *Music for this podcast is created by Noah Copeland. Check him out here!    QUOTES  “Narcissism is all about power and control. Neither of those have a place in marriage at all.” - Dr. Kim Kimberling  “I don't think God expects anyone to live in an abusive situation. In many ways, it’s as much a violation of vows as adultery is to not take seriously your vow to love and cherish your spouse.” - Dr. Kim Kimberling  “You deserve to be safe.”  - Dr. Kim Kimberling  “If you look at the message of the BIble, you can’t defend any type of abuse, for any person, ever.”  - Lindsay Few  “The goal would be repentance and reconciliation.” - Lindsay Few   “The reason a lot of people minimize emotional abuse because they haven’t seen it.”  - Dr. Kim Kimberling  “I’ve seen people who gaslight and don't really understand what they’ve been doing.” - Dr. Kim Kimberling  “Nobody’s uplifted or brought closer to Christ through manipulative behaviors.” - Lindsay Few    MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:  The Power and Control Wheel is helpful to understand what constitutes abuse  If your marriage is doing okay but could use a jumpstart, then this 5 Week Marriage Refresher Challenge is for you!  Past episodes on the topic:  Gaslighting in Marriage  Accidental Gaslighting  When is Enough Enough? With Dr. David E. Clarke  Recent series with Kathy’s Story  Escaping an Emotionally Abusive Marriage: Kathy’s Story | Ep. 608 Escaping an Emotionally Abusive Marriage Part 2: Seeking Church Support | Kathy’s Story Ep. 609 Escaping an Emotionally Abusive Marriage Part 3: Help to Get Out and Get Safe | Ep. 610