Pod meets pod on this episode of BTE as we’re joined by the host of Design Nerds Anonymous on the SURROUND podcast network, and President of ThinkLab, Amanda Schneider. Amanda knows her stuff and has the data to back it up, so the gang does their best to keep up in a wide-ranging and fast-paced discussion where we cover everything from the future of the design industry’s workforce to the metaverse hype cycle and beyond to the merits of decaffeinated coffee. Connect with Amanda Schneider on LinkedIn! Moments to check out:  “How to survive on decaf” - (starts at 3:14) The benefits of being a first mover industry - (starts at 7:11) Next generations designers & Gen Z talents - (starts at 19:25) Hype cycle vs Utility - (starts at 24:51) Podcast Plug-a-palooza - (starts at 35:09) Connect with our hosts on LinkedIn; Bobby Bonett Tessa Bain Andrew Lane References and resources: What’s Phygital?  Reinventing Live the Always on Future of Events by Marco Giberti Check out 3 ThinkLab podcasts Amanda’s mentioned: Design Nerds Anonymous The Learning Objective Mpowered Discover more shows from SURROUND at surroundpodcasts.com. This episode of Barriers to Entry was produced and edited by SANDOW Design Group. Special thanks to the podcast production team: Hannah Viti, Wize Grazette, Kasey Campbell and Samantha Sager. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices