On this week's episode Zack and Patrick run a little pick and roll and continue our way-too-early preseason prep by heading to Washington, Dallas, and Oklahoma City. Will the Wizards end up being more competent than people are expecting heading into the season? What outcomes would we put money on for the Mavericks and how will Luka respond to the brutal end to last season? Will the Thunder take another leap after an exciting 2022-23 season and will there ever become such a thing as too much talent? And finally, we wrap up with Zack's "get off my lawn" Mudpie Moment of the Week.