This time, Gordon chats with scientist, conservationist and broadcaster Professor Adam Hart about how we can move international public understanding of sustainable use forwards. Adam shares his story, from young entomologist to sustainable use convert and co-director of a successful volunteer programme in South Africa. He also discusses the wider consideration of habitat when working to conserve wildlife whilst benefitting from its resources. Adam has developed a rhino-thick skin when taking to social media to challenge misinformation around sustainable use in conservation and says strong reactions and harassment on these forums can be a deterrent to academics advocating for these approaches. He does however share how he’s been watching coverage become more positive as public understanding increases.    Adam and Gordon also discuss the role of media more widely in representing complex issues such as hunting and natural resource use, causing Gordon to reflect upon his own work as a wildlife filmmaker. And we hear from Adam’s colleague Lynne Mactavish, who shares her passion for wildlife. She also reveals the tough day-to-day decisions she makes as custodian of the Nkombi volunteer conservation programme founded by her father. Visit the website https://jammainternational.com to explore more international projects. https://www.nkombi.com @AdamHartScience Adam discusses wildlife during the Covid-19 lockdown of 2020 Listen to ‘Big Game Theory’, Adam’s BBC Radio 4 Documentary about hunting Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.