On The Bird Banter Podcast #131 I talk with Marcos Trinidad, the Center Director at Debs Park in Los Angeles, an avid birder, a leading advocate for diversity and inclusion in the environmental movement.  We talk about Marco's experiences in finding ways to have cell phones and technology provide positive experiences in nature, how to appreciate the urban nature around us, and his personal birding and life experiences.   You can reach Marcos at the Debs Park Audubon site, on Instagram @huskynaturalist or on Twitter @brownbirder  Thanks for listening. Please leave a rating and review.  Until next time, good birding and good day.