In this enlightening episode, Oral Mcguire and I delve into the significant theme of recognising and valuing the unique contributions of Aboriginal people to society. Our discussion centers around the importance of shifting the narrative from reconciliation to negotiation, highlighting the immense value Aboriginal perspectives bring to various sectors and communities. Oral McGuire is a Noongar leader and landholder who is strongly skilled at cross cultural mentoring and education. Oral has extensive experience in traditional land and fire management practices, as well as 20 years’ experience running his consulting business. He has worked across government, private enterprise and the not-for-profit sector bridging the divide between Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal communities. Recommendations throughout this episode:  https://www.ncci.com.au/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/oralmcguire/?originalSubdomain=au Website: www.blackmagicwoman.com.au Follow us on Instagram - @blackmagicwomanpodcast The Black Magic Woman Podcast is hosted by Mundanara Bayles and is an uplifting conversational style program featuring mainly Aboriginal guests and explores issues of importance to Aboriginal people and communities.  Mundanara is guided by Aboriginal Terms of Reference and focusses more on who people are rather than on what they do. If you enjoyed this episode, please ‘Subscribe’ on Apple Podcasts or ‘Follow’ on your Spotify app and tell your friends and family about us! If you’d like to contact us, please email, [email protected] See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.