Terry Johnson is a partner at Arnold & Porter and the current President of the Bar Association of San Francisco and its Justice and Diversity Center. In this episode, we talk about the book on ESG that she co-edited for the American Bar Association and we dive into ESG matters including some of its backlash. We also address the legal challenges to boardroom diversity, the Truth and Power Distinguished Speaker Series by the SF Bar Association, and other corporate governance trends of interest to directors. If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute as a Patron on the link patreon.com/BoardroomGovernancePod or you can subscribe to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.