We are still living on Tulsa time, reflecting back on the World of Bob Dylan conference in Tulsa at the beginning of June. This time we're talking about how Dylan plays inside and outside the lines of authenticity, roots, race, and the never-ending tour of the popular music hustle. Our very special guest is music impresario Mark Montgomery French, whose encyclopedic knowledge of music, framing of cultural questions, humor, and creativity will keep you riveted. This is a conversation that takes on tough, essential questions about race and music. Mark is just the person to go deep with those questions with honesty, wisdom, and grace. San Francisco-native Mark Montgomery French is an award-winning film composer with the group Spiky Blimp, Creative Director and Co-Producer of Glide Church’s Sunday Online Celebration, host of the podcast “All Your Favorite Music is (Probably)…”, staff writer at PopMatters, and the manager of critically acclaimed queer country band Secret Emchy Society and classic power-punk band The Furys. He’s also a music historian noted for his talk All Your Favorite Music is (Probably) Black, the series 28 Days, 28 Black Music Documentaries, and Uppity Music—Your Guide to Unsung Black Departure Albums. He was formerly the co-leader of the ’90s progressive funk band Endangered Species. Find out more about Mark's work at www.mmfrench.com. Check out the book About Man and God and Law: The Spiritual Wisdom of Bob Dylan wherever fine books are sold, and learn about related projects at mangodlaw.com. We are proud to be part of the Pantheon Podcasts Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices