Today the boys sat down with Ben Kubler who found himself in a situation where having lost his job he made a few bad decisions which eventually saw him running guns and drugs.  A police bust, a jail sentence and losing everything has brought him to now working on being the best version of himself.  This is a great tale for young people out there that the glitz and glamour is not worth the experience of jail and survival.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.