On this episode of Business of Building I am joined by Dr. Wayne Visser, Professor of Integrated Value and Holder of the Chair in Sustainable Transformation at Antwerp Management School and author of the best-selling book Thriving. He is also Founder of CSR International, Director of Kaleidoscope Futures and Fellow at the University of Cambridge Institute for Sustainability Leadership.  On this podcast we speak about everything from sustainability to COP27, and how the construction and engineering industries are (or are not) responding and adapting to the big environmental issues of our time.  Wayne shares insights from decades of experience as a thought-leader, academic and champion of sustainability in our industry.    Here are the highlights:  (03:06) The journey from CSR to sustainability in ESG  (07:31) COP27 comes at a challenging time  (12:20) What is a circular economy?  (16:51) The strategic tension between short term and long term thinking  (22:25) Leadership and Thriving  (27:54) Living systems organize themselves  (31:36) Social elements are stronger in developing countries  (37:35) The biggest risk in my career    Connect with Wayne:  LinkedIn  YouTube  Twitter  Business of Building celebrates the normal and the regular; the inspiring risk taker; the dreamer in all of us and hear from those who have walked the path before us and dared to dream. We will hear their journey, their stories, and what they learned along the way.  So please subscribe or follow wherever you get your podcasts, and remember to leave a review so others can find us. This podcast is produced by The Podcast Boutique.