OVERVIEW In today's episode, I'm going to be in conversation with Nathan Weyer COO of Design at Phillips. For me Phillips is one of two aspirational models for Design in complex legacy organizations (The other being IBM). Organisations that have transformed themselves to be relevant and growing into the future with Design as a core superpower. In this episode, you'll gain an insight into Phillips Design Team,  their scale, their approach and attitude and you'll hear Nathan reflect on the balance between human and business outcomes that has been central to the company and the Design Team's success.  For me it's the evidence that with humble, but bold leadership and a purpose that aligns across disciplines within a company - Design can be the heart of the delivery of meaningful and profitable outcomes. I hope you enjoy the episode SHOW LINKS & RESOURCES: You can find out more about the Philps Design Team at this public website and you can connect with Nethen Weyer on LinkedIn subscribe to the Business x Design Newsletter here and connect with your show host Martin Dowson on LinkedIn - we really welcome feedback from our listeners so do get in touch!