Has the book publishing industry been hit by the Covid pandemic? On the one hand, people forced into lockdown have more time to read which should be good news for publishers. On the other hand, with less footfall, bookstores are closing down for lack of customers. The big publishers may have the cushion of previous successes to survive with. But what about small publishing houses? How are they coping? Marina speaks to the founders of two independent Malaysian publishing houses, Amir Muhammad from Buku Fixi and Rosalind Chua from Clarity Publishing, to learn their views on what the future holds for their industry. Mentioned this episode: Viji Krishnamoorthy - 912 Batu Road  Boonsiri Somchit - When the Chicken Dies, Everyone Cries Muhammad Fatrim - Asrama Nadia Khan - Gantung Tunku Halim Ernest Zacharevic - Streetart George Town Teme Abdullah Neil Gaiman Randy Pausch - The Last Lecture Sally Rooney Brit Bennett - The Vanishing Half Lawrence Block - The Sins of the Fathers Ryszard Kapuściński - The Shadow of the Sun Haruki Murakami Donna Tartt - The Goldfinch Lionel Shriver Lat Matt Haig - Notes on a Nervous Planet Sherry Turkle - Reclaiming Conversation Eugene Lim Lydia Davies