“I deeply deeply believe that innovation is so critical to any society, any business, because it defines the human essence - our creativity, our ability to innovate and change and redefine, is what creates value… across all the value chains…. Innovation is this constant pursuit of improvement of doing things better and smarter.” In this episode of Change Happens, host Jenelle McMaster is joined by David Thodey AO, Board Chair and active in public policy initiatives. In this conversation, David is warm and openly vulnerable in sharing his lessons as a change leader, along with his passion for innovation, and technology with an authentic human approach. Host: Jenelle McMaster is Deputy CEO Oceania and Markets Leader at EY. Guest: David Thodey AO is a Board Chair and active in public policy initiatives.