In this episode of China-Mena titled "Performative or Substantive Engagement? China & Russia in the Middle East," our host Jonathan Fulton and guests Dr. Li-Chen Sim and Mark Katz explore the growing collaboration between China and Russia and its impact on the Middle East. We unravel the complexities of Sino-Russian engagement in the region, discussing Russia's interests, China's role, and the influence of the Ukraine war. Join us as we navigate the evolving geopolitical landscape of this crucial region. Takeaways China-Russia Collaboration in the Middle EastChina's Activities and Interests in the Middle EastPerceptions of Great Power Competition and Influence in the Middle EastQuotes "There is room for negotiation and cooperation between the US and China, transcending any cold war-like conflict." - Mark Katz "Together, as a force multiplier, they amplify their interests and narratives in the Middle East, projecting greater collective power and influence."- Dr. Li-Chen Sim Featured in the Episode Dr. Li-Chen Sim​​ Political Scientist At Khalifa University Abu Dhabi United United Arab Emirates Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/li-chen-sim-3098035a/ Mark Katz Professor of Government and Politics, George Mason University--Schar School of Policy and Government Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-n-katz-0707b213/ Jonathan Fulton Nonresident Senior Fellow for Middle East Programs at the Atlantic Council. Assistant Professor of Political Science at Zayed University in Abu Dhabi https://ae.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-fulton-2627414b https://twitter.com/jonathandfulton Chapters 00:00 - Introduction 03:13 - Russian Weaponry and Reactor Sales: Driving Middle East Cooperation 10:01 - Amplifying Influence through Media Collaboration: The Force Multiplier 13:42 - Middle East's Perspective: Russia as Muscle, China as Financial Power 16:07 - Russia's Challenges as a Weapon Supplier: The Impact of Ukraine 19:06 - Changing Power Dynamics: China's Role in the Gaza Conflict 23:24 - China's Benefits from Russia's Non-Compliance with OPEC 28:14 - Prospects for Saudi Nuclear Energy Cooperation: A Realistic Outlook 30:08 - Middle Easterners' Support for Russian Influence in 2015 32:32 - US Concerns and Attention-Seeking in Response to Russia's Actions 38:48 - Acting with Diplomatic Considerations: Weighing Repercussions 42:08 - Inevitable Cooperation: China, Russia, and the Middle East 44:26 - Exploring Cooperation: Russia, Ukraine, West, and the Middle East 46:23 - Outro